Comic 320 - After all you did

17th Apr 2015, 6:00 PM in Chapter Five
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320 - After all you did
Average Rating: 4.94 (16 votes)

Author Notes:

rufiangel 17th Apr 2015, 6:00 PM edit delete
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(Note: please check this DA journal out to help me promote the novel and maybe get a freebie bit of art out of it~)

Happy Friday, folks! :) Hmm, will Ren be willing to talk this one out with Cain? We'll see~

Just a second shout out in case you didn't get it the firs time - TheD-Wrek, creator of 24/7 fame, could really use some people commissioning him so he can pay for car repairs. His commission details are here! He's the dude behind these gorgeous pieces of SF fanart if you need a reference. ;D So please go help a guy out and get some great art back in return if you're able!

In other news, I have a double update regarding the redrawing campaign - strips number 12 and 13 are now done and up, on both DA and Tapastic! The images link to the DA pages.
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You can check out the Tapastic links for strip 12 here and strip 13 here if you like.

And that wraps up this week's updates! Hope you guys have a fantastic weekend, and catch you next week!

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(Please click to go to the DA journal entry that describes this in more detail :) There are also side-by-side panel comparisons in this journal if you'd like to see the difference between the old and redrawn strips!)

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Comments:

mjkj 17th Apr 2015, 6:02 PM edit delete reply
mjkj
Nope, Ren, it is you who are unbelievable...

(Cain, quick, heal Nemi!!!)

actual stand at the moment:
- our party: 2 standing, 1 out, 1 missing
- foe party: 1 standing, 2 out, 1 missing

rufiangel 17th Apr 2015, 11:12 PM edit delete reply
rufiangel
Haha, Cain is a little busy talking to Ren right now to heal anyone~ XD

It's interesting you put up a count like that. Probably, though, with Ren still up, his party still has a fighting chance...
mjkj 19th Apr 2015, 3:10 PM edit delete reply
mjkj
Yeah, and Michael does not have his hammer anymore - so it is important that Cain heals Nemi asap...
KAM 17th Apr 2015, 6:36 PM edit delete reply
KAM
Hmmm...
rufiangel 17th Apr 2015, 11:13 PM edit delete reply
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Hmmm...
KAM 19th Apr 2015, 9:38 PM edit delete reply
KAM
Yes, there's so much you haven't told us that just formulating questions to ask would be like writing an essay on various possibilities that the story could go in.

So, I sit back, hold on and enjoy the roller coaster ride you're writing. :-)
Chris the Blue 17th Apr 2015, 7:23 PM edit delete reply
Chris the Blue
I can't believe how long it took me to get the 'Cain and Abel' thing.
rufiangel 17th Apr 2015, 11:14 PM edit delete reply
rufiangel
Wait... really?! XD Lol, that's fine, I didn't expect everyone to pick up on it~

Hopefully though now that you 'get' it, it's easier to guess what may have happened? :P
Chris the Blue 18th Apr 2015, 4:35 AM edit delete reply
Chris the Blue
Well, I did attend Sunday school for a large part of my childhood.
Now, lets see... What happened between Cain and Abel?
...
Well, I actually don't remember most of it, but I think Cain murdered Abel because he was super jelly of Abel's sheep. It was like: YO DAD! Why you gotta give Abel the sheep? I want to be a shepard!

And everything else I know about Cain and Abel comes from Neil Gaiman's Sandman comics.
rufiangel 18th Apr 2015, 10:58 PM edit delete reply
rufiangel
LOL Karda XD Okay, purely for reference, here's an excerpt from The Message version of the bible, from Genesis Chapter 4:

Genesis 4 The Message (MSG)
4 Adam slept with Eve his wife. She conceived and had Cain. She said, “I’ve gotten a man, with God’s help!”
2 Then she had another baby, Abel. Abel was a herdsman and Cain a farmer.
3-5 Time passed. Cain brought an offering to God from the produce of his farm. Abel also brought an offering, but from the firstborn animals of his herd, choice cuts of meat. God liked Abel and his offering, but Cain and his offering didn’t get his approval. Cain lost his temper and went into a sulk.
6-7 God spoke to Cain: “Why this tantrum? Why the sulking? If you do well, won’t you be accepted? And if you don’t do well, sin is lying in wait for you, ready to pounce; it’s out to get you, you’ve got to master it.”
8 Cain had words with his brother. They were out in the field; Cain came at Abel his brother and killed him.
9 God said to Cain, “Where is Abel your brother?”
He said, “How should I know? Am I his babysitter?”
10-12 God said, “What have you done! The voice of your brother’s blood is calling to me from the ground. From now on you’ll get nothing but curses from this ground; you’ll be driven from this ground that has opened its arms to receive the blood of your murdered brother. You’ll farm this ground, but it will no longer give you its best. You’ll be a homeless wanderer on Earth.”
13-14 Cain said to God, “My punishment is too much. I can’t take it! You’ve thrown me off the land and I can never again face you. I’m a homeless wanderer on Earth and whoever finds me will kill me.”
15 God told him, “No. Anyone who kills Cain will pay for it seven times over.” God put a mark on Cain to protect him so that no one who met him would kill him.
16 Cain left the presence of God and lived in No-Man’s-Land, east of Eden.


As for how much I've based Cain and Abel's story off the biblical Cain and Abel... we'll see~ :D
Chris the Blue 19th Apr 2015, 5:51 AM edit delete reply
Chris the Blue
You ended up making Cain a lot cuter, though.
Headgamer 19th Apr 2015, 11:10 PM edit delete reply
Headgamer
And notably Able is not dead.
Headgamer 19th Apr 2015, 11:21 PM edit delete reply
Headgamer
Maybe it is tradition to name your heir "Able" so Cain & Able's farther is also Able. So Cain did kill Able it was just Able the First and not Able the Second. Then he can have a kid and name him Able the Third. :D
rufiangel 20th Apr 2015, 1:19 PM edit delete reply
rufiangel
XDDD That would be only a little confusing ;D lololol
Prayformercy 17th Apr 2015, 8:13 PM edit delete reply
Prayformercy
Stop.. Talking to the enemy healer. Michael Start punching him and dont stop until nemi wakes up.
rufiangel 17th Apr 2015, 11:16 PM edit delete reply
rufiangel
Hahahahaha gosh mercy! XD
I think it'd probably be a waste of energy on Mike's part if he did do this, mainly because Ren can erect Light Barriers in the blink of an eye. >_>
Seabiscuit 17th Apr 2015, 9:20 PM edit delete reply
Seabiscuit
I gotta say the sight of them laying broken and bloody is pleasing. They deserve it way too much.>,>
Oh man that Ren standing between the panels like that is hella cool though!

Wow Ren is completely unreasonable! Poor Cain... Gosh I'm so in suspense, I can't wait to see what Abel wants after all this time!
rufiangel 17th Apr 2015, 11:17 PM edit delete reply
rufiangel
I'm glad you find it pleasing, dear seamuffin XD;; ahaha, they turned the tables real quick!

I liked laying out the panels for this one so I'm happy to hear the Ren looks good standing there :D

We'll... uh... maybe see what's up next week... maybe? XD;;;; *whistles innocently* (imayormaynotcutovertokylieandmadoumaybe)
Nef 18th Apr 2015, 9:52 PM edit delete reply
He wants his sheep back ;)
mjkj 20th Apr 2015, 2:28 AM edit delete reply
mjkj
No, his bacon... '^_^
Lukkai 17th Apr 2015, 9:44 PM edit delete reply
From what we've heard about the past of the brothers, Ren doesn't seem to be all that unreasonable actually. But I think he's missing the point.
Cain wants to be left in peace, yes. And will go out of his way to stay out of Abel's hair in return. But he also doesn't want others to be hurt because of him.
He's not saying he is the victim here. He's saying his comrades are. And he might even still somehow include Sho in that group. Quite certain that he doesn't care all that much about Leela though.
rufiangel 17th Apr 2015, 11:19 PM edit delete reply
rufiangel
:D I do enjoy reading your comments, Lukkai~!

I think Cain definitely doesn't care all that much for Leela, no. XD;;; Probably didn't from the start, and then when Leela said he was the most hated man by the Father... that's all I'll say on that! XD
Lukkai 17th Apr 2015, 9:46 PM edit delete reply
Also, can we say that this particular look looks good on Leela? *evil grin*
rufiangel 17th Apr 2015, 11:19 PM edit delete reply
rufiangel
XD Lol! Certainly, Lukkai - it would seem plenty are happy with this 'new look' XDDD
James 17th Apr 2015, 10:06 PM edit delete reply
We still don't know exactly what Cain did though, do we? We know he killed their parents, but it seems like he probably also caused Abel's current physical state somehow. I hope these next few pages bring some more of that whole situation to light, since it seems a shame to think Abel and Ren are being totally unreasonable here.
rufiangel 17th Apr 2015, 11:22 PM edit delete reply
rufiangel
Hello, James! :D *waves*
Correct, we still don't know exactly what Cain did. A minor correction in that he says his father was killed as a result of his attempt to take his brother's life, but his mother was not mentioned in this statement. :) (Strip 257-258, if you're interested in looking at that again!)
I'll definitely do my best to bring more of the situation to light before the end of this chapter. We're well over the halfway marker for it~!
Thank you for reading and commenting :D <3
TheMentalist 17th Apr 2015, 10:52 PM edit delete reply
TheMentalist
Cain to Ren: Two unreasonables does not a logical make.

Ren to Cain: Don't make me tell them about the Lamia eggs. I'll do it, I swear. That was just unnatural, what you did with them!

Cain to Ren (whisper): I could always find something... unnatural, for you too.

*Note, Cain did not do anything particularly 'dirty' so calm down!*
rufiangel 17th Apr 2015, 11:23 PM edit delete reply
rufiangel
He ate them with bacon. That's what he did. >_>

And then didn't share any of it with Abel.
TheMentalist 18th Apr 2015, 5:05 AM edit delete reply
TheMentalist
Bacon and eggs! Bacon and eggs! Not for you Abel, says Cain about his bacon and eggs!
Jarvi 18th Apr 2015, 1:48 AM edit delete reply
Jarvi
Has he tortured Abel like his brother did to him? :x
rufiangel 18th Apr 2015, 7:54 PM edit delete reply
rufiangel
Hmmmmmm... maaaybe? XD;;

THIS IS TOO SPOILERIFIC A QUESTION I'M SORRY D:
Rinkel 18th Apr 2015, 2:03 AM edit delete reply
Rinkel
CAIN MY BABY
rufiangel 18th Apr 2015, 7:55 PM edit delete reply
rufiangel
XDDD Ah I'm sorry~!!

I have to put him through his paces, you know how it is~~ ;D
Crestlinger 18th Apr 2015, 4:08 AM edit delete reply
Seems more like all Abel did to himself to maintain Cain's chain curse and then told everyone else that Cain did this to him.
rufiangel 18th Apr 2015, 7:55 PM edit delete reply
rufiangel
Awww D: Abel's so mean
TheD-Wrek 18th Apr 2015, 5:58 AM edit delete reply
TheD-Wrek
I can't tell you how much I love the way the page is layed out. It just looks so clean and purdy. *high five* Well done, Rufi-Pie! :3

And thank again for the shout out. It means the world to me. Thanks! :')
rufiangel 18th Apr 2015, 7:56 PM edit delete reply
rufiangel
Awww, thank you! :D *takes the high-five YAY!* <3 I'm glad the layout works!

And no problemo D, I just hope it helps! ;w;
Matt Knab 18th Apr 2015, 6:28 AM edit delete reply
Matt Knab
Both parties really need to consider a strategic withdrawal at this point...
rufiangel 18th Apr 2015, 7:57 PM edit delete reply
rufiangel
Agreed. For my sake too, I'm not sure how much more of them slashing each other I can be bothered to draw XDDD (some table-top combat situations take hours and hours to cover as they fight down to the last HP and I am not doing that XDDD)
HeSerpenty 18th Apr 2015, 6:36 AM edit delete reply
HeSerpenty
Rufii.. I'm dying to know the history of Cain and Abel XDDD.................. I have my suspicions based from the biblical parallels we've spoken of, but..THERE HAS TO BE MORE XD. I love the sweet, scared, innocent Cain XD.. but there is that suspicious side to me! HE'SSTILLMYFAVTHO! Either way he is a REEALLY good character X'D

I loove that panel of Mikey and Nemi <33. Nemi needs to be healed and they need to GET KYLIE BACK D:
rufiangel 18th Apr 2015, 7:59 PM edit delete reply
rufiangel
Awwww Serpy! <333 XD lol I keep reading that 'but there is that suspicious side to me!' as, you know, Serpy's suspicious side XDDD lolol

But I am so happy you like him :D <3 (and I always enjoy your shippy comments XD)

I'd love to cover the past in detail but for now all I can do is drop a lot of hints. I'll try to drop more in this chapter than originally scripted since I think I'm starting to make people want to flip tables XDDD
Allzephyr 18th Apr 2015, 7:04 AM edit delete reply
Allzephyr
Psh, I mean, yeah sure when you look at it *that* way. But really, other than trying to kill Abel, actually killing his parents, and apparently seriously injuring him for possibly petty reasons, Cain totally left his brother alone. Get a better point Ren.
rufiangel 18th Apr 2015, 8:02 PM edit delete reply
rufiangel
Gah when did people get the idea Cain killed his parents?? XD; (second comment I'm reading that says this!) Cain says his actions caused the death of his father, the Holy Capital's King, on this page and this page. He never mentions his mother!

Anywayyy, other than that, you're right. Ren is so petty. Just because Cain tried to kill someone he has an allegiance accessory with? Psh. Give him a break, we all make mistakes! :P
Allzephyr 18th Apr 2015, 11:01 PM edit delete reply
Allzephyr
What? C'mon Cain, if you're going to screw up an assassination you need to go the whole way. You can't just kill one parent, geez. Really, I expected better of you.

But wait, if their mother is still alive, why is she not slapping the bejesus out of both of her idiot sons right now?
Lukkai 21st Apr 2015, 10:22 AM edit delete reply
Who says that she's alive? She might as well have died before the attempt or in the time since.

Also it was never outright stated that Cain himself killed his father. Just that his actions led to the death of him. Though the way he talks about it imply that whatever means he was trying to use against Abel actually got to his dad (and others). Probably something with an area effect then.
MST3KFan 18th Apr 2015, 7:57 AM edit delete reply
MST3KFan
The battle has been long, and both sides have suffered.

Yet, Ren still seems to truly believe Cain doesn't deserve any sympathy. Yeesh. Either Cain is a terrific actor about being the way he is, or Ren is just WAY too stubborn.
rufiangel 18th Apr 2015, 8:03 PM edit delete reply
rufiangel
This battle has indeed been looong. XD;;; *Rufi's hand agrees*

Hmmm, what could be the case indeed? :P Ren strikes me as a rather stubborn fellow...
mjkj 20th Apr 2015, 2:41 AM edit delete reply
mjkj
or Ren is controlled by abel - see that strange earring clip thingy he has on his right ear???
rufiangel 20th Apr 2015, 1:20 PM edit delete reply
rufiangel
He has it on his left ear too :)
Headgamer 18th Apr 2015, 10:13 AM edit delete reply
Headgamer
I hope he precedes to explane.

Also: "arn't you" is a question (needs a ?).
rufiangel 18th Apr 2015, 8:04 PM edit delete reply
rufiangel
Oh, he might~ :D

And thanks for picking that up, but I actually intentionally put it as a full stop so that the tone of it (when read in your head) would come out more of a statement (i.e. a drop in tone at the end of the sentence, and not raised). I took some liberties to express this. :)
Spelledeg 18th Apr 2015, 11:05 AM edit delete reply
Spelledeg
Oh man. RUFI. This page is gorgeous. The atmosphere is heavy and the pacing is great as a very 'show and don't tell' page. I just wow. I've been staring at it for the last few minutes. I'm in love with your pacing. <33 (and dialogue) that's some heavy dialogue between Cain and Ren.
rufiangel 18th Apr 2015, 8:05 PM edit delete reply
rufiangel
;w;* Awww Spellu!! *hug* That means a ton coming from you, you're like crazy awesome at layouts!! <333 Thank you!

And thank you AGAIN for your remarks on the dialogue, I always edit those multiple times before I settle and I'm glad to know this page in particular works. Ren is such a butt, seriously. XD;;;

(I am so encouraged thankyew :D <3)
CiciEnixa 18th Apr 2015, 7:00 PM edit delete reply
CiciEnixa
Sho is absolutely destroyed over there. If we pretend all that blood is alcohol, it looks like Sho and Leela got seriously wasted and Ren is just *sigh* *shakes head in disapproval*

Hooray for (hopefully) more revealing things!
rufiangel 18th Apr 2015, 8:07 PM edit delete reply
rufiangel
AHAHAHAHAHA XD Omigosh that'd be amazing lolol, daddy-Ren would be like "I have to drive these losers home AGAIN? They'd better not throw up on the carpet again"

And I'll do my best XD;;; hopefully I'll reveal enough for readers to get a better grasp on things >.<
Damatris 18th Apr 2015, 9:09 PM edit delete reply
Damatris
I really, really want to know their backstory...
rufiangel 20th Apr 2015, 1:20 PM edit delete reply
rufiangel
Sorry to make it such a mystery XD;;; I'll try to make it slightly less so!
Proxy170 19th Apr 2015, 5:17 AM edit delete reply
Proxy170
Hm...really wish we knew the specifics of what he did! While I think that he may have done something truly terrible, if he has left them alone, he should be left alone too. To hold such a hate for someone such that you won't let them even try to find redemption...that's harsh.
rufiangel 20th Apr 2015, 1:21 PM edit delete reply
rufiangel
Yeah... I think there's a LOT of deep-rooted resentment and hatred under the surface :<

I'll try to bring up more stuff in the coming pages but the main focus of the chapter isn't really... well we'll see XD ehehehehe